gk_2000
02-17 02:45 PM
Answer to this:
effective marketing...something called MLM was used and some false promises.
This event cannot run based on MLM or false promises.
It can be successful only if every member understands their contribution and participation is key for this event and they are the one who can solve their immigration issue by taking this event seriously.
this:
I respectfully disagree. It has nothing to do with marketing, fraud desi companies put up free ads on sulekha, its the mindset of a large number of our audience we are missing and need to account for. maybe it has to do with jugaad/kludge - the goal defines the means (loosely).
Of course many of these expectations cannot be satisfied in a honest non profit.
And this:
A dinner for a family costs $50 easily.
A movie for a family costs $50.
The mindset is incepted deep inside and it is extremely difficult to change.
Sometimes, I see people wanting to do something, but their spouses don't allow them to.
When I told people that I received GC - some desis who r still waiting got pissed. I heard all sorts of things, some say "You cheated", some say "Never knew you were Eb2", some say, "Are you sure?, have you got the cards yet?, Did you finish biometrics?" Some eb3 folks said "We will get ours too, some issue with finger prints , my husband's boss is very close to the congressman and we have influence in INS", some say "Your lawyer did some magic" etc.....
People carry such mindsets, it is difficult to bring about awareness and change.
is this:
agree, it cannot be really changed by us. even if people willingly try to achieve a new mindset with positive programming, it takes months to achieve.
Guess we have to work with what we have. There may be a solution, but only people with a similar mindset can come up with it.
Positive programming. Could we start it inside ourselves first? Stop ranting and lamenting?
The point is not that tri-state was crooked etc. The point is, they got the cash because they made themselves known as an entity that does some service
Same with IV. If IV is just a rant board, who will believe? We must change IV!
effective marketing...something called MLM was used and some false promises.
This event cannot run based on MLM or false promises.
It can be successful only if every member understands their contribution and participation is key for this event and they are the one who can solve their immigration issue by taking this event seriously.
this:
I respectfully disagree. It has nothing to do with marketing, fraud desi companies put up free ads on sulekha, its the mindset of a large number of our audience we are missing and need to account for. maybe it has to do with jugaad/kludge - the goal defines the means (loosely).
Of course many of these expectations cannot be satisfied in a honest non profit.
And this:
A dinner for a family costs $50 easily.
A movie for a family costs $50.
The mindset is incepted deep inside and it is extremely difficult to change.
Sometimes, I see people wanting to do something, but their spouses don't allow them to.
When I told people that I received GC - some desis who r still waiting got pissed. I heard all sorts of things, some say "You cheated", some say "Never knew you were Eb2", some say, "Are you sure?, have you got the cards yet?, Did you finish biometrics?" Some eb3 folks said "We will get ours too, some issue with finger prints , my husband's boss is very close to the congressman and we have influence in INS", some say "Your lawyer did some magic" etc.....
People carry such mindsets, it is difficult to bring about awareness and change.
is this:
agree, it cannot be really changed by us. even if people willingly try to achieve a new mindset with positive programming, it takes months to achieve.
Guess we have to work with what we have. There may be a solution, but only people with a similar mindset can come up with it.
Positive programming. Could we start it inside ourselves first? Stop ranting and lamenting?
The point is not that tri-state was crooked etc. The point is, they got the cash because they made themselves known as an entity that does some service
Same with IV. If IV is just a rant board, who will believe? We must change IV!
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conchshell
02-26 07:32 PM
And who is hurting because of this? Is it not you? And me? and our families? Whose fault is it that we refuse to actively participated in the effort that wants us to lead a stable life.
You see, most people here work in IT. So we have binary logic. 0 & 1. There is no in between. So most people in this community of educated illiterates wants the world to be perfectly aligned before we lift a finger. Lets wait for few more years for GC before we contribute my hard earned $20 after bickering for 10 years, way to go.
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Sanju,
May be "educated illiterates" is a too strong word to describe our community. But no complaints, I know that sometime passion run high and we use strong words to convey our feelings. I know you mean all good for IV and the community.
I am contributing to IV with my time/money/efforts from a long time. I had several face to face interactions with people here in Colorado when I used to ask them why they shy away from fighting for what they deserve. Trust me, it would be unfair to say that people want someone else to fight on their behalf, but what people want is an organization that can represent them in a fair manner, and they feel that IV has a long way to go before that stage comes. I posted a summary of suggested reforms in IV as a organization, but unfortunately it did not spark that positive debate which can bring such reforms. You can read the thread in your leasure time:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406&page=2
Transparency in its action is one such big thing. Lets just learn from an anti immigration forum called numbersusa.com. On their donation page (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/make-donation.html) they clearly mention that "NumbersUSA is recognized by Independent Charities of America as one of the top 3% of well-run charities. When you donate to NumbersUSA, you can be sure that the money is used responsibly." Can we here at IV make such bold statement and prepare ourselves to prove this point if a member ask such question?
I am no way opposing this campaign, I am supporting this and going to contribute too. But I guess its not too much to ask where these contribution will go, and what track able results they might bring.
You see, most people here work in IT. So we have binary logic. 0 & 1. There is no in between. So most people in this community of educated illiterates wants the world to be perfectly aligned before we lift a finger. Lets wait for few more years for GC before we contribute my hard earned $20 after bickering for 10 years, way to go.
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Sanju,
May be "educated illiterates" is a too strong word to describe our community. But no complaints, I know that sometime passion run high and we use strong words to convey our feelings. I know you mean all good for IV and the community.
I am contributing to IV with my time/money/efforts from a long time. I had several face to face interactions with people here in Colorado when I used to ask them why they shy away from fighting for what they deserve. Trust me, it would be unfair to say that people want someone else to fight on their behalf, but what people want is an organization that can represent them in a fair manner, and they feel that IV has a long way to go before that stage comes. I posted a summary of suggested reforms in IV as a organization, but unfortunately it did not spark that positive debate which can bring such reforms. You can read the thread in your leasure time:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406&page=2
Transparency in its action is one such big thing. Lets just learn from an anti immigration forum called numbersusa.com. On their donation page (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/make-donation.html) they clearly mention that "NumbersUSA is recognized by Independent Charities of America as one of the top 3% of well-run charities. When you donate to NumbersUSA, you can be sure that the money is used responsibly." Can we here at IV make such bold statement and prepare ourselves to prove this point if a member ask such question?
I am no way opposing this campaign, I am supporting this and going to contribute too. But I guess its not too much to ask where these contribution will go, and what track able results they might bring.
prashanthg
09-17 03:51 PM
Its unfortunate you are confused. Still appreciate you took sometime even with this confused state of mind to give your valuable 2 cents.
First of all, its not between me and employer for that matter. USCIS is delaying the process with no logical reason ( am i repeating myself from my first post - hopefully you read again and properly this time Mr.confused ).
All we want is to have them follow a pattern. Wait what am i doing here, you are confused, doesnt matter what i write here. Let me know when you are normal ( after all the hormones are in order, if at all that happens ), we can talk.
Man!
You either get too emotional, or too defensive.
I still don't get what you want to achieve.
We all agree that you are not after the money.
You want them to approve the cases this September, before the retrogression hits in Oct.
They can�t give the GC�s if this year�s quota is already over. Even a judge can�t force them � it is the law � they cannot give any more than the number defined in the law.
On USCIS processes:
USCIS already confessed before the congress that they can�t (unable to) process the applications in the priority date order.
If you force them, they will say the same thing in front of a judge. If the judge forces them to process the cases by PD, they will say it will take them couple of years to make changes to their processes/procedures. In the mean time they will waste visa numbers.
(We are still smarting from the BEC fiasco � at least I am � They took two years just to move the boxes from SWEs).
They have been saying that they are hiring, training and improving blah, blah blah (we have heard all that BS before). And they are going to repeat the same thing again in a court.
So, How do you want to see the USCIS perform and how this law suit is going to help.
Convince me. I will gladly contribute, even though, I have not filed my 485 yet.
First of all, its not between me and employer for that matter. USCIS is delaying the process with no logical reason ( am i repeating myself from my first post - hopefully you read again and properly this time Mr.confused ).
All we want is to have them follow a pattern. Wait what am i doing here, you are confused, doesnt matter what i write here. Let me know when you are normal ( after all the hormones are in order, if at all that happens ), we can talk.
Man!
You either get too emotional, or too defensive.
I still don't get what you want to achieve.
We all agree that you are not after the money.
You want them to approve the cases this September, before the retrogression hits in Oct.
They can�t give the GC�s if this year�s quota is already over. Even a judge can�t force them � it is the law � they cannot give any more than the number defined in the law.
On USCIS processes:
USCIS already confessed before the congress that they can�t (unable to) process the applications in the priority date order.
If you force them, they will say the same thing in front of a judge. If the judge forces them to process the cases by PD, they will say it will take them couple of years to make changes to their processes/procedures. In the mean time they will waste visa numbers.
(We are still smarting from the BEC fiasco � at least I am � They took two years just to move the boxes from SWEs).
They have been saying that they are hiring, training and improving blah, blah blah (we have heard all that BS before). And they are going to repeat the same thing again in a court.
So, How do you want to see the USCIS perform and how this law suit is going to help.
Convince me. I will gladly contribute, even though, I have not filed my 485 yet.
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02-10 06:19 PM
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My 485,AP,EAD checks were cashed on 9/11/07
Application filed on August 2nd
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anil_gc
08-09 10:37 AM
Anil,
Did you notice any change in the LUD of your pending or previously approved cases??
No, I have not created an online account
Did you notice any change in the LUD of your pending or previously approved cases??
No, I have not created an online account
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krishnam70
07-02 09:02 AM
That thing is there for quite some time now... like more than a day. nothin new about it. just search the forums and you will be able to see what it says.
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11-21 05:05 PM
Hi Mehul, i'm really sorry to hear your situation. I was researching some stuff & since you are from Fiji & with the political unrest in your home country, can you take political asylum since you were kinda forced to leave the country. I mean everyone knows about the coup that took place in your country. below is a link that gives you more information on Political Asylum maybe this would expedite the process for you.
http://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/161/
Let me know if i can help you in any other way!!!
thanx
http://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/161/
Let me know if i can help you in any other way!!!
thanx
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sands_14
08-13 02:01 PM
DId your checks get cashed and receipts issued.
I heard from a friend,he got a receipt but checks not cashed yet.
My attorney just emailed me, she received receipt notices for 485, EAD and AP for both me and my wife.
My application was received on July 2nd 9:01 AM, if it matters it was signed by R Mickels. Also, there is no LUD change on my I140 application, so I guess LUD changes on I-140 mean nothing.
I have not seen the notices yet so I dont know what the notice dates are.
I heard from a friend,he got a receipt but checks not cashed yet.
My attorney just emailed me, she received receipt notices for 485, EAD and AP for both me and my wife.
My application was received on July 2nd 9:01 AM, if it matters it was signed by R Mickels. Also, there is no LUD change on my I140 application, so I guess LUD changes on I-140 mean nothing.
I have not seen the notices yet so I dont know what the notice dates are.
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newbee7
07-07 08:23 PM
All officials have talked about processing 60k visas in a month to avoid visas going waste.
None was honest enough to say the unused visas expire on 09/30 NOT 06/30.
So, why the mad rush to give out all visas by 06/30?? We all know why..
None was honest enough to say the unused visas expire on 09/30 NOT 06/30.
So, why the mad rush to give out all visas by 06/30?? We all know why..
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bluemask
05-23 09:52 AM
Sent 2+10 emails.
Will call later and ask friends do the same thing.
Thanks IV!
Will call later and ask friends do the same thing.
Thanks IV!
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07-07 09:24 PM
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07-10 09:52 PM
@Ramba:
Nice assumptions...but we need evidence. Do any USCIS documents say they would need proof of a *running* income? (After all, you don't have paystubs for a future job in same/similar occupation.) Since GC is for *future* job, why can't self-employment in same/similar occupation, under AC21 and with *projected* revenues, be enough? Do they ask for paystubs and proof of long-term commitments/contracts in EVL-RFE?
Re wages, here's Yates memo verbiage:
Question 5. Should service centers or district officers use a difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification and initial I-140, and the new employment as basis for denial in adjustment portability cases?
Answer: No. As noted above the relevant inquiry is if the new position is the same or similar occupational classification to the alien’s I-140 employment. A difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification, initial I-140 and the new employment cannot be used as a basis of a denial. However, a substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage may be taken into consideration as a factor in determining if the new employment is “same or similar.”
Pls note that with current recession/depression, the "prevailing wages" for same/similar occupations have gone down--drastically in some cases (esp. IT). Also, you could open/register your LLC (by spending $400) for your self-employment to sound more "legitimate"--but that's certainly not a requirement.
USCIS may not buy if no income shown thro the bussiness. One may have a simple bussiness model. However, they should be in a position to show documentary evidence that they are making similar money as per 140, and importantly they are doing same kind of work when self employed, and they have a long term commitment/contract for their bussiness. Then only they may belief that you are doing legitimate bussiness thro self employment. Just writing EVL in a letter head will not serve the purpose.
Nice assumptions...but we need evidence. Do any USCIS documents say they would need proof of a *running* income? (After all, you don't have paystubs for a future job in same/similar occupation.) Since GC is for *future* job, why can't self-employment in same/similar occupation, under AC21 and with *projected* revenues, be enough? Do they ask for paystubs and proof of long-term commitments/contracts in EVL-RFE?
Re wages, here's Yates memo verbiage:
Question 5. Should service centers or district officers use a difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification and initial I-140, and the new employment as basis for denial in adjustment portability cases?
Answer: No. As noted above the relevant inquiry is if the new position is the same or similar occupational classification to the alien’s I-140 employment. A difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification, initial I-140 and the new employment cannot be used as a basis of a denial. However, a substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage may be taken into consideration as a factor in determining if the new employment is “same or similar.”
Pls note that with current recession/depression, the "prevailing wages" for same/similar occupations have gone down--drastically in some cases (esp. IT). Also, you could open/register your LLC (by spending $400) for your self-employment to sound more "legitimate"--but that's certainly not a requirement.
USCIS may not buy if no income shown thro the bussiness. One may have a simple bussiness model. However, they should be in a position to show documentary evidence that they are making similar money as per 140, and importantly they are doing same kind of work when self employed, and they have a long term commitment/contract for their bussiness. Then only they may belief that you are doing legitimate bussiness thro self employment. Just writing EVL in a letter head will not serve the purpose.
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02-09 08:32 PM
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tonyHK12
02-17 11:40 AM
"Are you sure?, have you got the cards yet?, Did you finish biometrics?" Some eb3 folks said "We will get ours too, some issue with finger prints , my husband's boss is very close to the congressman and we have influence in INS", some say "Your lawyer did some magic" etc.....
People carry such mindsets, it is difficult to bring about awareness and change.
tonyHK12: another similar comment I see is - IV hasn't achieved anything in 2 months, so I'll quit IV and won't donate
agree, it cannot be really changed by us. even if people willingly try to achieve a new mindset with positive programming, it takes months to achieve.
Guess we have to work with what we have. There may be a solution, but only people with a similar mindset can come up with it.
People carry such mindsets, it is difficult to bring about awareness and change.
tonyHK12: another similar comment I see is - IV hasn't achieved anything in 2 months, so I'll quit IV and won't donate
agree, it cannot be really changed by us. even if people willingly try to achieve a new mindset with positive programming, it takes months to achieve.
Guess we have to work with what we have. There may be a solution, but only people with a similar mindset can come up with it.
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07-21 10:22 AM
EAD RD: 29th May 2008
LUD: 5th June 2008
FP/Photo: 29th July 2008
Current EAD Exp Date: 24th September 2008
LUD: 5th June 2008
FP/Photo: 29th July 2008
Current EAD Exp Date: 24th September 2008
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07-03 07:44 PM
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ujjvalkoul
06-23 05:38 PM
Guys u can mark my words - there will be no relief for Hi Tech Workers, as the policy makers know, if not here we will find comparable jobs elsewhere, and wont make a noise.
It will come down to making a noise in a big way if we have to achieve our immigration goals. When illegals can take to the streets, c'mon we r legal and following the process (which is broken) and we want that process fixed. Is taht asking too much!
Gone are the days when immigrants were welcome in US, although everyone in US is an immigrant, we r the unlucky ones to have been caught in this wave of backlogs, anti-immigrationists and illegals.
It will come down to making a noise in a big way if we have to achieve our immigration goals. When illegals can take to the streets, c'mon we r legal and following the process (which is broken) and we want that process fixed. Is taht asking too much!
Gone are the days when immigrants were welcome in US, although everyone in US is an immigrant, we r the unlucky ones to have been caught in this wave of backlogs, anti-immigrationists and illegals.
amitjoey
11-17 03:48 PM
Lets do this. Please get involved. Please post if you have already sent this email, that will be encouraging for others to do it. Also, We can build a strong momentum if this thread immediately starts running into 100's of pages.
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